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Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
12:19
If you have questions for Dr Miles as we go along. Pop them in the chat and I will lift them up to her
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
23:11
Our K-2 skills supports this with our instructional practices aligned to these levels (aka our microphases)
Ryan Maxwell, EL Education, (he/him ~ él)
23:36
Does do these levels corres
Ryan Maxwell, EL Education, (he/him ~ él)
24:18
Do these levels correspond with our “pre-alphabetic, partial consolidated and consolidated…” ?
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
24:26
Yes. These levels are based in phase theory and we worked with Dr Ehri to further break it down into microphases
Christina Lesh
25:00
so levle 1 = pre-alpahbetic?
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
25:05
This is when it clicks for kids!
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
25:16
Cracking the code!
Christina Riley (she/her/hers)
25:53
@christina L yes and we have early pre-alphabetic as the first
monicalewis
26:00
@christina she is going into the phases now
monicalewis
26:31
@pre-alphabetic they don’t know letters yet
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
27:48
This is what you often see in Kinder writing. Amazing K teachers can read sentences based just on first and last letter spelling :)
Melissa Wilhelmi
28:27
That is so, so powerful - one step at a time!
Ashley Goggins (she/her/hers)
28:43
In your Resource Manual, you can see examples of microphones and you can look at the grade level pathways to see how the phases build on each other to be fully consolidated by second grade.
Ashley Goggins (she/her/hers)
28:52
microphases*
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
30:25
This research is the backbone of our benchmark assessments in K-2 skills. Understanding where kids are in these phases is the primary guide for instruction. So exciting to see that Monica and her team have made these assessments more accessible for remote use.
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
31:02
Yes! Having those Benchmark Assessment slide decks will REALLY help teachers!!!
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
32:35
I’m so curious how multilingualism impacts the way students move through their phases with various phonemes
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
32:47
This makes interpretation of our assessments key vs. just putting them in a “group” based on “a level”
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
33:01
Great question Becky
Sarah Purdy (she/her)
33:02
Yes! @Becky that is actually what I am wondering!
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
34:04
Thank you!
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
34:15
That would be amazing!
Carrie Cobb
34:52
This is what we are seeing in our schools as well. Nothing documented—totally anecdotal.
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
35:08
That is super fascinating. I was wondering about more symbolic orthographies when you spoke at Starting Strong
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
35:20
I would love to understand that more deeply. Wondering if deeper understanding of that would support our ELL students and teachers.
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
35:39
@Wanda: maybe we could start a community of practice on the topic
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
35:43
Or teacher ed program
Melissa Wilhelmi
36:09
@Becky @ Carrie @Wanda, yes please!
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
36:13
@Becky Yes!
Christina Lesh
36:18
It’s a very worrisome truth that many people don’t talk about. K-2 teachers are not taught how to teach children to read in their prep programs.
Christina Lesh
36:29
Thank you for saying this so clearly
Carrie Cobb
36:44
Thank you for keeping it real for teachers!
Liz Freitag, EL Education, she/her
37:16
YES!
Carrie Cobb
37:24
I did not have linguistic training until my masters. Sad for my kiddos who had me prior to this knowledge.
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
37:25
Agree @Christina. It was a challenge to find teachers who had had any teacher ed training on this when I was a principal. :(
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
37:42
Folks usually get this if they are trained in a program like Ortin Gilliamham
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
38:01
Or OUR curriculum now :)
Carrie Cobb
38:04
Training happens at the school level not teacher prep level.
Tiffany Fick, (she/her)
38:49
@Gwenthyn exactly. It is our responsibility to appropriately prepare teachers to use our curriculum.
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
39:18
Characteristics of Primary Learners + Dr. Ehri’s research = a great idea!
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
39:41
Other disconnect: students won’t love to read if we teach them phonics! So wrong - they learn to love reading by cracking the code through a systematic, explicit instruction in phonics!!!
Carrie Cobb
40:06
Yes Jill—Kids LOVE skills block. “I can read!” They LOVE the decoables.
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
40:07
Yes Tiffany. This is an equity issue for students for sure
Christina Lesh
40:37
Yes - Jill! It’s just like anything. If decodable are the only part of a student’s reading life maybe it won’t be so full. But no one is saying that is all it should be.
Amy Bailey
40:48
Thank you for being such a champion for kids @Dr Miles. Your energy and enthusiasm is infectious and your knowledge will help us do BETTER for our students
Deb Lindsey
41:36
I am curious about the implications of this work for older students (thinking middle school) who are still not at the consolidated alphabetic stage… putting so much energy into decoding that comprehension is seriously impacted.
Heather White (she/her)
42:03
@Deb - yes! Even high schoolers
Sarah Purdy (she/her)
43:23
@Deb and @Heather, this is why all secondary teachers need to learn the science of reading as well!
Heather White (she/her)
44:02
@Sarah - agreed. Many High school teachers don’t always learn the craft of teaching, only the content.
Deb Lindsey
45:22
Yes. Secondary teachers need to be trained beyond content…reading, writing, thinking.
monicalewis
47:08
I love FREE!!!!!
Amy Bailey
47:21
I am wondering if you can speak to students with dyslexia and the compounding variable of online learning for kids with dyslexia. Also, since we know early identification is key, how will teachers be able to determine this (I know for my son, the computer is very different from reading and writing in print)
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
47:53
Ya’ll, Liz Fasterling at Odyssey rocked this last year. I say this as an EL coach and parent of one of her kinder students. If you’re looking for examples of high quality kinder videos (skills block included and aligned to what Dr. Miles is saying right now) check out this link. She has agreed that we can use it, and this slide includes a link to an interview with her about her thoughts when making a lesson video for kinder. Sorry… just had to share… it’s a gem: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nFHzZvRUy5TE5E9kbiIWUH1sWY5PUE6I6lNpyQeiSRA/edit?usp=sharing
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
48:36
Thanks, @Becky! Great resource :)
Carrie Cobb
48:48
Thanks Becky. Liz is amazing!
Kari Horn Lehman (she/her)
49:29
@Ashley there is the cookie sheet strategy you shared with participants earlier today!
Ashley Goggins (she/her/hers)
49:43
Yes it sure is :)
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
49:45
Agree - never underestimate the cookie sheet :)
Christina Lesh
49:48
Yup! With washy tape!
Ashley Goggins (she/her/hers)
50:05
We can build off what teachers have been using in their classrooms. They do have value add :)
Amy Bailey
50:42
FAVORITE
Kady Taylor (she/her/hers)
50:54
Sheet protectors are awesome. I used them all the time! :)
Amy Bailey
51:05
I LOVE IT
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
51:24
The puff balls double as erasers too
Amy Cohen (she/her(s))
51:31
low tech and very hands-on
David Driver, (he/him)
51:57
Yes - Explicit Instruction
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
52:59
Gooey in bags, clay, kinetic sand - it turned into sparkle instead of teaching
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
53:29
Yep… this happens a lot in early childhood in particular
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
53:54
So important to stay rooted in the research for why we are using a practice vs the shiny ideas
monicalewis
54:15
@amy this part addresses your question about the support for special needs. These skills are highly emphasized in OG training to support students who need extra support because of the different modalities
Amy Bailey
55:14
Thanks @monica. I am worried about the ability to detect dyslexia in a remote environment too - thoughts about that?
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
55:50
YES! Movement + sound so so good for struggling students.
Carrie Cobb
55:52
You see this in math too—kids use fingers and touch them to chin or face to count.
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
57:13
@Amy and @Monica - I think we need to ensure teachers are monitoring progress and ensuring they are drilling down to the targeted skills students need to move along the continuum. As well, small group instruction will be key.
monicalewis
57:36
@amy that is a huge concern that I believe through the small group work that is designed in the Flex blocks will be a place for teachers to assess in a small group setting. I also see this as place where teachers will need to be skilled with this type of education.
Amy Bailey
57:55
Thanks @monica
monicalewis
58:16
@jill, this is why we have a small group component as well so teachers can assess learning along the way.
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
59:17
That’s great! @Monica - I am seeing very little small grouping in scheduling for my own kids and am glad we are making this explicit suggestion.
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
59:24
Or strong recommendation
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
01:00:08
Love this idea!
Shanta Lightfoot
01:00:21
Such a great idea!
Beth Miller she/her/hers
01:00:53
Great idea! Works well for lots of other lessons too I bet.
Wendy Hodgson (she/her/hers), EL Education
01:01:23
Love this double down on “Preview/New/Review”…. multiple exposures in active and meaningful ways.
Amy Bailey
01:01:44
@wendy - you taught ALL the collier teachers about multiple exposures years ago! You were ahead of your time
Amy Bailey
01:01:59
EXPOSURES matter!
Wendy Hodgson (she/her/hers), EL Education
01:02:27
@Amy…. working at FCRR was a great opportunity at that time…. love this session!
Amy Bailey
01:03:11
Yes, FCRR (Florida Center for Reading Research) — LOVE LOVE
Gwyneth Hagan (she/her)
01:04:01
So much of this will support us in coaching remote teaching across grades and content areas
Christina Lesh
01:04:14
Over-stimulated by tech, under-stimulate by experience … powerful to consider how teachers can support bring balance back for students through needed remote learning
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
01:04:37
Will we have access to this slide deck to turnkey to partners?
Wendy Hodgson (she/her/hers), EL Education
01:04:38
This has been an amazing session! Take aways abound, but LOVE this new frame/phrase: Preview, New, Review! LOVE IT!!!!
Amy Bailey
01:05:11
I love the idea of See it. Say it. Hear it. Write it. Mapped onto READ THINK TALK WRITE
Scott Hartl (he/him)
01:05:12
This was fabulous Dr. Miles, so relevant and accessible. A just right time message. Thank you!
Becky Martinez (she/her/hers) EL Education
01:05:13
Thank you Dr. Miles!!
Amy Bailey
01:05:15
WE LOVE YOU DR MILES
Heather White (she/her)
01:05:16
THANK YOU!!
Christina Lesh
01:05:17
Thank YOU!! This was amazing!!!!!
Kate Palumbo, EL Education [she, her, hers]
01:05:21
We love you, Katie. Thanks so much!
Shanta Lightfoot
01:05:24
Thank you, Dr. Miles! This was amazing!!!
Cindy Rice
01:05:24
Thank you Dr. Miles!
monicalewis
01:05:26
Thanks Dr. Miles!!!!!!
Tiffany Fick, (she/her)
01:05:26
Thank you!
Jamee Lynch (she/her)
01:05:26
Thank you so much, Dr. Miles!!
Sarah Miller (she/her/hers)
01:05:31
Thank you!!
Britani Humes (she/her/hers), EL Education
01:05:31
Thank you! This was great!
Sarah Purdy (she/her)
01:05:31
Thank you!
Rominna Villaseñor (she/her/hers) - EL Education
01:05:33
Thank you! It's is fascinating and helpful!
Kari Horn Lehman (she/her)
01:05:34
That was incredible, Dr. Miles. So informative and accessible.
Maggie Bello (she/her/hers)
01:05:34
Thank you so much!
Kat Klopp
01:05:34
This is helpful for non-coaches too! Our comms team needs to be highly tuned to this.
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
01:05:35
Amazing - finally - the push for structured phonics! <3
Roel Mason-Vivit (he/him/his)
01:05:35
Thank you Dr. Miles! This was so great!
Linnea Krizsan, EL Education (she/her)
01:05:36
Thank you for this learning and time!
Carrie Cobb
01:05:38
Thank you for this brilliance! So helpful!
Deb Lindsey
01:05:39
Thank you, Dr. Miles! This is amazing work! So much to think about!
Ron Berger
01:05:42
Thank you, Dr. Miles!
Nathan Warner
01:05:46
This was great. Thank you Dr, Miles!
Jen Wood (she/her)'s
01:05:48
Thank you Dr Miles. This was incredibly useful. Really appreciate your time and the presentation was wonderful.
David Driver, (he/him)
01:05:59
Thank you, Dr, Miles! Bringing everything back to evidence-based instruction is key. Loved today’s session.
Jill Syvret (she/her), EL Education
01:06:03
Thank you, Dr. Miles!
Ryan Maxwell, EL Education, (he/him ~ él)
01:06:04
This was an incredible session — thank you for this learning. I learned more today than I had in all my teacher training about reading science! THANK YOU!
Lloyetta Walls (she/her)
01:06:08
Thank you, Dr. Miles!
Beth Miller she/her/hers
01:06:20
Thank you, great session!
Wanda McClure (she, her, hers) EL Education
01:06:21
Thank you, Dr. Miles. So incredibly informative and helpful!
Dale Bergerhofer (he/him/his) EL Education
01:06:22
WOW! Thank you! So powerful! Presentation was so clear!
Amy Bailey
01:06:32
Thank you thank you thank you - DR MILES!
Amy Bailey
01:06:34
Be safe and well
Amy Bailey
01:06:37
we love you TOO
Wendy Hodgson (she/her/hers), EL Education
01:06:53
Good luck with your continued research, Dr. Miles!
Mike Kelly (he/him)
01:06:55
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! This was very enlightening.
Dave Manzella
01:07:02
Thank you Dr. Miles!
Kathleen Schwille
01:07:15
Thank you Dr Miles!